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Gameplay and Talk
Gameplay and Talk Prije 12 minuta
This was a fun concept. I was honestly surprised both came out so even, roughly. I'd definitely like to see future videos comparing other price points.
Finchnz
Finchnz Prije sat
This was really good, I am still running a 4970k and its good to see where each team is going in regards to a setup that is middle of the road.
Bound4Earth
Bound4Earth Prije sat
Rosewill PSU, HAHA.
Excellion123
Excellion123 Prije 2 sati
Vega56 would have been a much better choice than rtx 2060
F0110W3R '
F0110W3R ' Prije 4 sati
FX processors anyone! Yeah, it's kinda sad I switched to a Ryzen 5 1500x when it came out. I discount on it from Newegg, so it was cheaper than Intel's current offerings. Once I got that I just slapped it into a cheap b350 and I was good to go!
T A
T A Prije 11 sati
Linus, please can you include European pricing next time? Thank you.
Luke Borg
Luke Borg Prije 12 sati
because of AMD"s advertising... you can have an athlon 3000 CPU that runs LIKE 3.0GHZ! (in reality it's 1.4ghz).... i hate AMD< always have
Pwnpie
Pwnpie Prije 12 sati
for the first time in my life i am ready to make a gaming PC, have a budget of $1500 but its giving me a damn headache trying to figure what to get, everyone i ask have different opinions. oh god
King of Gamers
King of Gamers Prije 13 sati
What about a 3000 dollar limit
King of Gamers
King of Gamers Prije 13 sati
The i9 9980xe was worth it
King of Gamers
King of Gamers Prije 13 sati
I bought a 2000 dollar cpu worth it i9
Vern Haynes
Vern Haynes Prije 14 sati
Here is something to think about...Without AMD to keep it honest, how much would an 8400k cost? Competition keeps the tech advancing, keeps prices low, and ensures a constant stream of new/faster tech.
Luda Pecurka
Luda Pecurka Prije 14 sati
Soon to be for top of the top end gaming systems ;)
RiftMull ‘
RiftMull ‘ Prije 15 sati
anthony picked my motherboard on his first build lol
jodaneidajo
jodaneidajo Prije 15 sati
AMD won a Google gaming deal now, stock is soaring
Silverhawk Shayhan
Silverhawk Shayhan Prije 15 sati
I would like to see some comparisons between low PC hardware to high end server hardware for media servers, like plex or emby with all the features enabled to how different types of hardware effects performance of the software.
GMBlazey
GMBlazey Prije 16 sati
1050ti i5 3340 8gb ram £250 maxed anything ive ran
Zapablast05
Zapablast05 Prije 17 sati
Lol AMD for poor people? What a blindsided dolt. I'll take AMD and put the money savings towards a more exciting hobby, like track days.
Carys Kelly
Carys Kelly Prije 18 sati
Can you help me build my own pc, please. I don't think you have ever done one with an older girl gamer. I am 11 almost 12, and I want to get into the world of pc gaming!
Victor Ov
Victor Ov Prije 18 sati
Would be good to see some productivity and stream benchmarks not just "gaming"/
Victor Ov
Victor Ov Prije 19 sati
Loool AMD is for poor people.
Alparslan Kopuz
Alparslan Kopuz Prije 19 sati
İ like the see more of this
plonk420
plonk420 Prije 22 sati
one thing as a grown up, i don't skimp on PSU like i did as a "kid," not even for budget builds... at the VERY least a Seasonic Bronze
Hoàng Nam Nguyễn
Question: Why Intel CPU and B360 only support Ram 2666, but you can put 3000???
The Legacy
The Legacy Prije dan
Could you do an update on this video which includes productivity numbers? Considering amd's proficiency with the number of course, it would be very interesting to see.
Shorne Pubique
Shorne Pubique Prije dan
they should make Anthony the Oracle. "we need to visit the oracle." then they tap the mirrort and Anthony appears and he says "thisss bettter be goooood" like the wizard of oz. and then they're like blah blah blah can you help us... and then he speaks in riddle and they have to decipher what he's saying and then before he fades away he does the tap head meme and leaves.
Tony Torres
Tony Torres Prije dan
i dont see the appeal in budget "pc" gaming if you aren't aiming for at least 144fps/144hz just stick to console low budget computer hurt my eyes
Russell Winters
Russell Winters Prije dan
Remember Athlon XP Barton cores? Pepperidge farm remembers.
1 WithTheDark
1 WithTheDark Prije dan
What about a mid ranged 1200-1500 dollar pc builds between intel and amd? wonder if it would stay around the same or will one come out on top?
Dirk Snyder
Dirk Snyder Prije dan
I would have liked to see how those systems differed in productivity workloads. I supect the AMD system would have blown the Intel system away in applications like video editing, simply because of the higher thread count.
SORAW441
SORAW441 Prije dan
Nah, not really. Using Ryzen 2600X and a 1080Ti Mini no problem with a Gigabyte b450i, SP 512GB SsD, 16gigs of 3200 c14 DDR4 and Windows 10 LTSC 1809. I hate elitists who constantly act like having the absolute best is the only thing or GTFO. It’s not 1999 anymore. I agree AMD GPUs are buggy but I’m not complaining about FPS or latency on my CPU. Mistrust over buggy releases is hard to wipe off but I’m pretty sure AMD rocks now.
David Wesson
David Wesson Prije dan
I really enjoyed this video! I would love to see another future video with an even lower budget, say $500, that may or may not be overclockable / for premium gaming purposes.
Jokery
Jokery Prije dan
only reason intel better performs because focused on single core performance which most games use but when multicore AI in games will be a thing will be mind blowing and intel will die
john paul de paz
i know linus is a very reliable..
john paul de paz
what about the power consumption in idle mode or vice on its very peak demand
IQ DESTRUCTOR
IQ DESTRUCTOR Prije dan
IM UPSET - miles teller, probably
EliteMetrics Playz
Can you do rtx vs gtx
Israel Lewis
Israel Lewis Prije dan
Nice to see Linus using an HP Envy ;)
Matt D.
Matt D. Prije dan
I'm about to build a rig with a $2000 budget, so it would great to see how Linus and Anthony would do it. I'm new to PC building and driving myself crazy trying to figure out value vs performance....
Arkhein
Arkhein Prije dan
You forgot to mention upgrading. You can keep your b AMD mobo up to 2020 (if I'm not mistaken) and use their entire mainstream CPU lineup. Intel on the other hand makes you switch your mobo for the high end ones to be able to enjoy more performance from an OCed CPU.
Saricon
Saricon Prije dan
As cool as the other stuff u uploaded recently is, i am always so interested in these kind of videos, cause they actually help me deciding what to buy and probide information i can really use instead of just entertainment.
mohamed tawfik
mohamed tawfik Prije dan
here is the better 750$ deal pcpartpicker.com/list/8NNFD2
Spfere
Spfere Prije dan
Yes please, more of this, it is actually very useful for more than the rich kids that got daddys wallet to play around with.
Pixel SkuII
Pixel SkuII Prije dan
Yeah but I have AirPods so
Random PC Test
Random PC Test Prije dan
i5 7500, 16gb ddr4, 1060 6gb best cheap pc lol i5 and mobo for like 200 usd in a bundle NEW
mike szwagierczak
try and do a budget gaming build for 500$ canadian. looking into doing a budget build myself but dont know what to do
Viktor Kenesei
Viktor Kenesei Prije dan
And what is the vulnerability of the intel?
marceelino
marceelino Prije dan
what was the OC?
John Locke
John Locke Prije dan
How is that guy so fucking fat AND ugly
Tobias Carlsson
Tobias Carlsson Prije dan
I'm rich, with AMD I'm even richer.
ReloadFast
ReloadFast Prije dan
oh yes, bring them on!. It would also be interested to see a build guide that´s not from scratch, what parts would you change them. What parts would you carry over and what would you change, even if it's still relevant technology.
Swapnil Sinha
Swapnil Sinha Prije dan
A 300$ build would be great..
Tim Owen
Tim Owen Prije dan
"I probably should have gone for dual channel" Oh Linus, Linus, Linus.
Austin Swails
Austin Swails Prije dan
hello i came here looking for the "Is AMD For Poor People?" video, can't seem to find it.
ImaITman
ImaITman Prije dan
Please do more of these at different price points. This was a GREAT video
TheWhataman00
TheWhataman00 Prije dan
And THIS IS WHY we watch LTT.
mattig89ch
mattig89ch Prije dan
I would be interested in seeing more price point comparisons, or different video card manufacturers.
Xan the Dragon
Xan the Dragon Prije dan
Man he went with an i3 lol
Aaron Slippery
Aaron Slippery Prije dan
petition to add Linus to list of approved list of tech youtubers ayy m88 evga intel nvidia m89 lol
ACE
ACE Prije dan
so Intel is to AMD as Walmart is to Target?
Fichte NullDrei
Fichte NullDrei Prije dan
How did u not tested how much power they used?
The Curious Noob
Linus sounds so calm in this video.
Samo Gledam
Samo Gledam Prije dan
AyyMD
Shawn Martel
Shawn Martel Prije dan
As much as they both seem to be great options for different reasons. I can't get down with any company making people pay a premium on brand name alone.
vitthal chepte
vitthal chepte Prije dan
Watch 3$ watch from amazon unboxing hrvid.com/video/video-ff5ZTws47Vw.html
Fred T. McCoy Jr.
what if you did a new build versus a top of the line build from last year/generation? like new stuff versus best stuff from 2 years ago?
Tim Ronchi
Tim Ronchi Prije dan
Do the same thing at $1200
maevian
maevian Prije dan
Intel prices are pretty reasonable in the US, The difference in price between intel and AMD is way bigger in europe
Pro720HyperMaster720
So even in the US, AMD technically wins by a pretty low margin on Europe things look even better for AMD, I’m very happy that AMD is finally able to compete in the CPU market again with Zen, I hope they grow a lot and rebalance de situation, because AMD is yet extremely weak economically compared with Intel, if AMD is now again force to the exile with a failure like with Bulldozer with btw the FX 9590 as farewell, AMD wouldn’t survive, they burned all his reserves and more, live a bear in hibernation, can’t afford new hibernation just after manage to overcome the last one
Henrik
Henrik Prije 17 sati
Indeed. For 700 usd, the price of the full AMD build, you know what i got here in Norway? Ryzen 2600, Motherboard and RAM.. Which would be fine i guess if i made as much as the average Norwegian
akaGiant
akaGiant Prije dan
I feel attacked
duddits 5k
duddits 5k Prije 2 dana
power consumption?!!?
Marc Gaits
Marc Gaits Prije 2 dana
I have been using Intel for many years, but after numerous reviews and reports. I will never go back to Intel. AMD all the way, thank you Linus.
Daniel Bondas
Daniel Bondas Prije 2 dana
I was looking a lot for a computer setup for working that it's around $2600 that works well as a Hackintosh but i didn't found a good one, can you guys make one?
NightMare Dark Angel
I see the title was changed 🤔
foreign's gaming tech
Remember when CPUs were as boring as GPUs right now, before Ryzen came out? Yeah, me too. Ryzen is great and I would have done the builds differently, but this video concept is really cool.
EweToobUsername
EweToobUsername Prije 2 dana
Moral of the story - if you don't really give a damn about overclocking, get an Intel non-K chip and a B series board.
Rhainne Tizon
Rhainne Tizon Prije dan
hip uh
Tim Clark
Tim Clark Prije 2 dana
I'm disabled and bought my i7-3770S for around $80 used for the first PC I ever built and it's still going strong, 1 month away from 3 years later. Of course I upgraded the GPU I started off with from a GTX 760 SC 2 GB VRAM to a GTX SSC(Super Super Clocked?) 970 4 GB VRAM but again, I bought the GPUs used. You can save a pretty penny going used and there is little to no difference
Ford Entertainment Group FEG
Linus...a 8400 is not more powerful than a 8350k in gaming.
Junker Zn
Junker Zn Prije 2 dana
Me either. Those numbers came out a lot closer to each other than I thought they would at the start. I suspect, though, that Intel really pulls in its margins at the higher-end where they can ignore power consumption and they have an absolute performance advantage by leaning on superior clockability. So we have the 9900K @ $530 against the 2700X @ $290, which is a whopping $240 difference sans cooler. If we just assume that we'll buy an AIO for both, the difference is the same. The Intel chip has a significant performance advantage, but you wind up paying through the nose for the extra cpu cycles. The question is... is that extra performance worth it? I would argue for most people the answer is no. For ultra-high-end gamers, sure. But for the other 99% of computer buyers (even the other 95% of gamers)... no. Not worth it. On the Intel side the costs keep piling up in order to squeeze out the last bit of performance from that CPU, whereas on the AMD side you can just stick with the stock cooler and the somewhat lower performance, but widen the price difference by another $40 (at least, keeping the AIO for the Intel), for a difference of $280 in total. That $280 buys a lot of quality-of-life for someone on a budget. absolute performance isn't everything. I think the fact that ram and SSD prices have fallen is putting a larger bulls-eye on Intel's pricing. It doesn't seem to phase Intel, but I'll bet the Zen 2 stuff coming out later this year will. Particularly now with ram prices having halved vs last year, and SSD prices also having dropped significantly, what can $280 buy? $100 - An extra 16GB of ram (on top of what you already have) $85 - A 2TB Crucial SSD (SATA) (which is $135, but also subtract $50 for the 1TB HDD being removed) $95 - With $95 remaining... that is definitely enough to also upgrade the GPU in the system, or perhaps a better monitor. Same calculation... incremental price difference by buying a better component. Now, the AMD system on air will be, what, around 20% slower than the Intel system on an AIO? Even so, these are still two high-end systems. A 2700X is no slouch, and the QOL improvements buys a lot of smiles. A better GPU will close the gap. More ram... if you have a use for it, will improve quality of life (else spend the money on something else). Having a SSD instead of a HDD will *definitely* improve quality of life. A person on an unlimited budget won't care. Most people don't have infinite amounts of cash to drop on their rigs, though. -Matt
Zachary Schumann
Zachary Schumann Prije 2 dana
I'm rocking a Ryzen 3 2200g and 1050ti. Totally fine.
Jay Money
Jay Money Prije 8 sati
That’s exactly what I’m planning on switching to. I’ve been running a budget build with an i5 2400 and a 1050ti for quite some time now and figured a newer cpu would have me better off. I can run plenty of games and have no problem but after time you get limited. If you have discord let me know, maybe we can benchmark and compare so I get a better idea of what performance would be like if I switched to amd. Surprisingly the ONLY game I’ve had trouble running was a game called rust.
Vipor26
Vipor26 Prije 2 dana
I really really like Anthony. He and Linus have good on screen dynamics.
Ethan Martin
Ethan Martin Prije 2 dana
Corsair vs. EVGA power supplies next haha.
PjStarTV
PjStarTV Prije 2 dana
If you're going with a non-overclock chip, the i5-9400F is $15 cheaper than the i5-8400. It's only $15 but there's really no reason to NOT go with the 9400F if you're going to use a dedicated GPU.
Anowara Begum
Anowara Begum Prije 2 dana
What a set!
sergio scanzani
sergio scanzani Prije 2 dana
i would like AMD PURE vs INTEL PURE... (include GPU AMD )
bubbyj
bubbyj Prije 2 dana
Real budget build would have been an RX590 and save 150 on the AMD build. Benchmarks are not a great way to measure real world performance. For 1080p gaming, use the 590 and you could have a case and nice mouse or keyboard for the same price you guys worked with.
Zsavage1
Zsavage1 Prije 2 dana
LMAO the RX580 or 590 will kick the shit out of the 1060... hahah and it's CHEAPER!! only around 200.00 for the RX580 and it's 8gb ... both you guys suck and budget built..
Wheel Trouble
Wheel Trouble Prije 2 dana
Something AMD people have known for years. Gaming benchmarks will always favor intel, as game devs focus on troubleshooting for those systems. AMD is bang for buck.
Happy Potato
Happy Potato Prije 2 dana
"Who could dislike the video?" 1.6k people... so far....
daniel najera
daniel najera Prije 2 dana
Could u guys do a 3d rendering test rig
imfastasfrickboi
imfastasfrickboi Prije 2 dana
here before they changed the title to why is amd the budget option and when it was is amd for poor people
Istarion
Istarion Prije 2 dana
>Gigabyte b450 >good vrm oh dear...
Honk von Brämstedt
Honk von Brämstedt Prije 2 dana
I'd like to see the most affordable non-blocking three screen office computer, ideally fanless 😎
cpear760
cpear760 Prije 2 dana
In a video about budget gaming, sitting in office chairs that easily cost over $400.
Taluvian
Taluvian Prije 2 dana
I feel not using dual channel hurt intel build a bit.
St8kout
St8kout Prije 2 dana
Let me say up front this is not about fat-shaming, but seriously, Anthony, buddy, you really need to take action with your weight before it's too late. When you're young you think you're invincible, going to live forever. But the reality is you are heading for some major health issues in the coming years. We really don't want to see a Linus Tech Tip episode where Linus shows how to build an emergency defibrillator from a computer power supply, in memorial to the passing of his friend that he might have saved if he had one.
gary maya
gary maya Prije 2 dana
so if you spend those $40 bucks on shipping, the intel machine is faster, because it's there the next day???
Ray Majka
Ray Majka Prije 2 dana
You're right; that's absolutely correct.
Kenneth Hicks
Kenneth Hicks Prije 2 dana
Good real world stuff. Son;t forget about time...numbers change.
Maddy Carbuncle
Maddy Carbuncle Prije 2 dana
Content suggestion - performance scaling/throttling of GPUs from low/mid to high-end CPUs. I was shocked by how important this is when researching a low-end build and finding out a GTX 1030 was the most that would be used by my otherwise old machine. (You sort-of covered this in $69 gaming rig, but also expand this to an actual range of CPUs from low-mid to high, versus a small number of GPU targets such as 1050ti, 2060, 2080 - at what CPU level does each card actually show a benefit?)
Maddy Carbuncle
Maddy Carbuncle Prije 2 dana
I have to say. Your content rocks but I have to agree with others about the graphs not making sense. In the Intel vs AMD graphs e.x. my attention was focused on the blue vs yellow bars, but they were only about the minimum percentile, whereas contrast SHOULD have been used to highlight the difference between AMD and Intel instead. I'm not being sarcastic- serious suggestion- maybe there is a visualisation course on Skillshare or something that can help. The intent is great, the data collection is great, but the visual presentation of graphs is where it falls down. Love your work. Hopefully this is a helpful suggestion.
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